Dosaaf
216 reviews
August 6
I would like to express my deep gratitude to the theory teacher, Sergey Borodich, for the professional passage to his subject. Everything is very accessible and clear, especially when you attend classes!
And also special thanks to my driving teacher, Sergey Viktorovich Semchenkov! He taught me how to drive from zero! And it was only thanks to him that I passed driving the first time. The Semashko circuit leaves much to be desired! The road is just TERRIBLE!!! There you are looking for a free place to perform an element, this is only one and for the entire period of the lesson. There is a very large flow of students, and everything has its turn.But thanks to my driving instructor, we went to Kazinets. It's much better there!!! The entire duration of my training took place in a comfortable environment. I never shouted, sometimes I even just laughed at the fact that I confused the right and the left) It's incredibly nice when a driving instructor supports you from start to finish. This was the first person I called and informed about the change!
Sergey Viktorovich not only masterfully teaches, but also motivates as much as possible!!! He empathizes with you from the very beginning to the end! You can't drink coffee on Kazinets, there is no normal toilet, but sacrificing our comfort and the desire to teach us, we were there! For which I am immensely grateful!!! In general, this is the best and professional instructor! He will not only teach you how to ride, but also enjoy riding!
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August 22
We would like to express our deep gratitude to the administration of the driving school for the comfortable learning conditions and the correct selection of professional and competent personnel. And also we ask you to note the excellent work of the teacher Borodich Sergey Sergeevich and to encourage financially.
Sergey Sergeevich, you are the best teacher, a driver worthy of imitation, and just a good person. Thank you very much for your humor and patience, for your relevant life examples and necessary advice. Thank you so much for the individual approach and psychotherapy. We, your students, are very lucky that you have been and are with us, and also lucky for the school and other students who will have you.
I wish you good health and all the best!
The whole 19 group together with Olga Vladimirovna
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September 12
Hello, I would like to express my gratitude to the professionals in my field.
Many thanks to the theory teacher Sergey Borodich. It was the best time in theory. It got more and more interesting every time. Life stories for almost every rule, where the whole group laughed and thus memorized the theory.
A teacher who believed in every student and knew that everyone would succeed.
Also, special thanks to the driving instructor, Sergey Nikolaevich Zabavsky.
The best in the business. I went to driving like I was on a holiday. Every class was held with laughter in the car.
A person who knows how to instruct, correctly indicate a mistake when driving, said what else needs to be worked on. He never shouted, he was always talking about the case. I also believed and worried about each student. Motivated me when I took the exam.
I am very glad that I got to these people, who taught me not to be afraid, not to give up, not to give up, but to go ahead and work to achieve the goal in the end.
Thank you very much for your hard work and the knowledge you have gained!
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June 10
He studied with Natalia Eduardovna Damskina
An excellent teacher, she told everything interestingly sometimes with stories from life and in a comic form, so there was always a desire to come, chews everything and suddenly repeats something that is not understood
The instructor was Ekaterina Sokolova . A beautiful woman, she never raised her voice, did not grab the steering wheel and always said how and what was best to do if she did not explain something clearly. The car was
volkswagen polo sedan in excellent
condition.
so you can safely sign up for these wonderful people.
But there are also disadvantages: 1 on the racetrack, the whole road is in holes and who got behind the wheel first will be difficult, especially with garages
2. To roll back all the hours to the traffic police, you have +- a month, but I did not have time to roll out everything, the traffic police postponed (it's a shame and scary for you if the whole group went to the traffic police, and you are still riding )
Of course, I recommend the school to everyone and it is these teachers
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July 21
This is my second driving school! And I'm very happy. Especially the work of Vladimir Nikolaevich Semenov, a teacher, and Roman Nikolaevich Ivankevich, an instructor.
They explained everything perfectly and gave good exercises)
I passed the traffic police the first time!
From the recommendations: automate payments so that you don't have to carry papers and update the coverage at the racetrack)
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July 24
I am writing a review on the central one. The place is not bad, compared to other driving schools, it is decent. However, there are questions for teachers: in the first lesson, the teacher simply read the text from the traffic rules book, made a "presentation" in which the text from the same book is just as simple, without adding any pictures or a story "from himself". It's unpleasant to listen to this because I paid money for driving school and for a book with a map, and they just read to you what you could have read at home. In the end, there was also a setup, I asked a specific question before the internal driving: is it allowed if there is one debt according to theory and is it possible to hand it over after the internal one? Answer: yes, of course. I arrived at the internal one, it turns out that she did not write out a piece of paper, calling — the answer is already different and in an aggressive form ... as a result, time and money were wasted, as well as precious hours of sleep.
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November 7
I want to say thank you to the driving school for training in the category "B"! I would like to mention the theory teacher Sergey Sergeevich Borodich. He knows a lot about traffic rules and is really one of the best in this business. The lectures were very interesting and with stories from personal experience (life), which colored the study of the world of traffic rules with bright colors!
I would also like to mention the BEST driving instructor Akhmad Tatyana Petrovna!!! Thank you so much for your skill, clear explanation and support in difficult moments before the practical exam in the traffic police, you will also have clear confidence on the road :) . With this instructor, you will learn how to drive and be a cultured person on the roads and BE SURE to work on mistakes!
But it will not do without disadvantages, unfortunately.
The circuit is a little lame, too small and there are enough irregularities to shake you a little while driving along it)
In general, I recommend choosing this driving school!
It's a pity 4 stars...although for me it's a strong 5 in the shower)))
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November 14
The legendary driving school. There are disadvantages and advantages. Somewhere, a couple of driving sessions may be cut off due to an error by the training department, but I, in general, had enough lessons, since I did not come zero, but I had to catch up with the clock, since driving started very late, however, we cooperated with the instructor and were able to roll back almost everything. I passed the traffic police the first time, thanks to Doroshko Gennady Viktorovich for the acquired skills.
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March 13
I want to express my great gratitude to the theory teacher, Semenov Vladimir Nikolaevich, really a man of his craft , a teacher who develops skills in every student , having chewed everything in detail, I am very glad that I got to such a theorist, as well as driving instructor Gumbatov Asad Samad -Ogly, gave the whole skill base for well-organized training , everything is clear, calm I'm sure I had experience with another instructor, and there is something to compare it with, the main thing is a top-level approach to the student !!!! I am very glad that I chose the Moscow DOSAF!!!
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November 17
unfortunately, I am writing a negative review about this organization... [CENTRAL RUSSIAN DOSAAF]
The sprawl of learning.... More than 6 months;
Price-quality.... Lectures and theory classes leave much to be desired. At the first lesson, you are offered to purchase a book and a "new turn" program for preparation and training. And all the training advertised by "A-Drive" is highly recommended to purchase and solve ... why then 2 programs are not offered for purchase at the very beginning?
Lectures "for show" and after each topic, passing tests, on the one hand, is a big plus that the repetition of the material passed, but on the other hand.... Due to the very extended training, lack of visibility and accessibility in the course of classes, not everyone succeeds in taking tests on time....
the teachers are not completely attuned to the result of their studies.... "come from... to... for retakes.... Don't forget to print out the receipt!"
teaching at the parochial school level.... "My job is to report the material, if you want to teach, hand it over, if you don't want it, whatever you want...." the approach to the work of individual "specialist teachers"
has no logic, and there is no conceptual apparatus applicable to traffic regulations in principle. they explain and clarify some points very mediocre.... as a favor to the student… "You could have learned it in so much time!" is the teacher's answer, to people who work 2 jobs and at best teach theory at night, and you must come to retake it! And don't forget about the payment!! Time spent, nerves and money…
Driving....
Do not count on the 50 hours that are prescribed in the contract ... at best, leave for 25 hours ... the instructor is not himself, either from the number of trainees, or by themselves. At the first lesson, the person who got behind the wheel for the first time, to say "Let's go!" is strong....
And then also raise your voice if something doesn't work out the first time.... That's the level of professionalism..... It seems that they recruited former taxi drivers who did not register in accordance with the law and were actively looking for work.
There was not even a full hour (60 minutes) in any class....
The instructor allowed himself to start the lesson not at 10:00 as agreed, but at 10:15, for example, and finish no later than 10:50…
35 minutes? And what can you learn during this time? How to start and stop....
Unclear, constantly growing (every month) payments…
for some reason, the instructor demanded that the money for providing the car be given to him personally in cash.
Although everything is included in the tuition fee....
Paid retakes ... nervousness, a huge flow of people, the teacher forgets who is from which group and so on.....
recently, the level of delivery to the traffic police has been very low ... "They did not pass-extend the training and we pass with the next group"
Some waste, both nerves and money.....
But at first they confidently say "DOSAAF is an approximate in the traffic police, and it's very good that they chose us, we will bring you to the traffic police by the handle and we will be there until you successfully pass the exam" high-sounding words, and no more....
The car park is terrible.... In many cars, according to the students, the clutch, gearbox and so on do not work correctly....
the circuit ... pit on pit.... And there is very little space, the flow is large, and to execute an element, you have to wait in a queue…
Urban driving. It is also unclear that, always the same route, the same elements ... a U-turn outside the intersection, as required by the exam in the traffic police, has never been worked out in principle…
I am very sorry for the time and nerves spent…
I do not know where the positive feedback from this organization comes from ....
P.S. I HOPE THIS REVIEW WILL BE PUBLISHED, AND THOSE WHO WANT TO GO TO STUDY WILL DEFINITELY READ IT!
Good luck to everyone!
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January 14
He studied with Borodich Sergey Sergeevich. An excellent teacher, he told everything interestingly sometimes with stories from life, so there was always a desire to come.
The instructor was Tatyana Nikolaevna. A beautiful woman, she never raised her voice, did not grab the steering wheel and was always encouraging. The car was a volkswagen polo sedan in excellent condition.
After listening to the stories of friends and reading the comments, I think that I am very lucky, so you can safely sign up for these wonderful people.
But there are also disadvantages: 1 at the racetrack, the whole road is in holes.
2. It takes only one month to roll back all the hours to the traffic police.
3 if you go to an evening or weekend group, then prepare that driving is only on weekdays from 8 to 17.
It's up to you to come here or not
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April 25
I give two stars for the excellent teacher Irina Eduardovna) explains very well and even the stupidest will understand 🙂
But there are big questions about driving here. On the website and in the contract it is specified - 50 hours , I rolled back 24 hours .
Maybe this is enough for a person who already has experience in driving , but not for a person who came with 0 knowledge .
I was lucky with the instructor , but not with the car/road on the racetrack .
In general, if you, like me, came to drive for the first time - this school is not for you) you will still give a lot of money for what you have been taught)
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September 16, 2023
Пришёл и закончил со всей группой. Преподаватель Семёнов, отлично объясняет и приводит реальные примеры для лучшего запоминания. Инструктор Роман Николаевич, отдельный респект за качественное обучение и индивидуальный подход в курсантам. По итогам обучения ГАИ сдал с первого раза! Спасибо этой школе за мою мечту! Кто собирается идти, однозначно не пожалеете и идите к самому лучшему инструктору Роману Николаевичу!
August 7
LYUDMILA ALEKSANDROVNA KHOLODINSKAYA is THE BEST driving master! Thank you so much for the result (I passed it the first time)! Highly qualified specialist! THANK YOU for such a GOOD attitude!
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October 18
I want to thank Semenov V.N. for teaching and an accessible explanation of the theory.Many thanks to the instructor Tatyana Petrovna, who supported and helped to correct mistakes on the road.
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January 8
I want to express my great gratitude to Roman Nikolaevich Ivankevich! I came to his classes after an unsuccessful training experience at another driving school. Classes with Roman Nikolaevich were just perfect! The instructor answered all questions and always explained everything clearly, as well as sorted out difficult places on the routes. Thanks to his lessons, I learned to ride confidently and with pleasure. I would like to note the instructor's training methodology separately - it is 10 out of 10!
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April 20
Tatyana Petrovna is a wonderful instructor, she does not shout, but explains. Most importantly, she teaches exactly! It helps to feel confident on the roads. In addition, Tatyana Petrovna is a pleasant and sincere companion. Thank you so much for driving to the traffic police until the last, and thanks to her, I handed over the city the first time!!!
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July 15, 2023
Огромное спасибо преподавателю теории Сачинской Надежде Николаевне! Очень доступно объясняла, занятия проходили интересно.
По инструкторам, первое что не понравилось, то что теория началась в апреле, а занятия с инструктором только в июле за месяц до экзамена в ГАИ. Второе, попался инструктор, некий Сергей на черном Рено Логан. На первом же занятии на площадке дал понять, что все очень печально, хамил и давил, цыкал и всем видом показывал, что все просто ужасно. После второго занятия стало ясно, что ходить учиться к нему я точно не пойду, с таким отношением, так как с таким настроением и покриками нормально ничему не выучишься. После общения с ним было такое чувство, что ты в 1 классе поставили двойку и тебя целый час отчиывают и намекают, что ты ноль и никто не будешь водить. При чем это было только на площадке, что говорить про город. В итоге я попросила другого инструктора, Екатерину Францевну. Люди, совет: никогда не терпите хамское отношение к себе, спокойно идите и меняйте инструктора, не тратьте драгоценные оплаченные часы, чтобы потом отдавать деньги нормальному инструктору! Екатерина Францевна поверила в меня, сказала, что все получится, ни разу не повысила голос - все было доступно и понятно! Так же иногда со мной ездил Олег Викторович, тоже огромная ему благодарность - все спокойно, с юмором, без психов и унижений.
Что касается того Сергея на черном Рено Логане, оказалось все из моей группы от него ушли, и потом парни из другой группы сказали, что он специально таким образом отсеивает новичков, и занимается только с людьми, которые катались.
На протяжении несколько месяцев, которые ходила потом заниматься постоянно видела, что он стоит болтает и курит на улице, а его курсанты сами сидят по 40 мин в машине и пытаются освоить площадку. Я считаю, что такие преподаватели ( хотя даже не назовешь преподавателем) должны проходить курсы по педагогике, я не знаю, или держать себя в руках, или вовсе не работать в этой сфере. И можно как то до них донести, что все люди разные, кому то сложнее, кому то нет , и что от хамства никто быстрее ездить не научиться. Понятно, что выгоднее заниматься уже с неновичками, но извините, почему то Екатерина Францевна и Олег Викторович с самого нуля всех вытащили. Когда стояли на сдаче и общались с ребятами выяснилось, что очень много людей ушли от этого Сергея и Екатерина Францевна вытащила и выучила всех, даже тех, кто вообще не водил. Я считаю, это недопустимо, инструктора получают зарплату, один просто сливает новичков, а остальные их "подбирают" и реально учат.
И еще раз совет тем, кто боится хамства, и кому намекают , что у вас все плохо. Не бойтесь МЕНЯТЬ ИНСТРУКТОРА! НЕ ТЕРПИТЕ!!! Вы заплатили за это деньги, чтобы вас учили, вы не обязаны ездить без ошибок, они есть у всех!
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October 20, 2023
If the word or phenomenon DOSAF for someone smacks of antiquity, then in vain. I studied for category A near home. I chose an expensive high-quality place. I didn't pass the first time. DOSAF 15 makes it possible on the days of passing for A category in the traffic police, to roll out for 2 hours and then to the neighboring gate (DOSAF 15 and the traffic police on semashko, neighboring territories) you go to take it on a motorcycle, on which you warmed up. And yet! They have an "eight" with curbs, like in the traffic police. In general, we have to admit that the system is good. Let it be, perhaps, Soviet. But not many other systems were born in this industry. More haphazard amateurs.
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December 28, 2023
Today I passed my license the first time. I want to express my great gratitude to this driving school, because I previously studied at another driving school and there is something to compare it with.
The theory was taught by Semenov V.N. He explains everything very clearly, at the level of understanding, with examples from life, focuses on complex topics and, if necessary, explains it several more times. If you attend all the lectures, listen carefully and prepare on time, then there will be no problems with theory at all.
I had driving with the instructor Protasenya E.I. From the first to the last lesson, there was a relaxed and easy atmosphere in driving lessons, pays attention to weaknesses and makes every effort to practice skills, selects a convenient time for all classes. He is always encouraging and supportive in class, which is very important for a novice driver.
In general, during my studies, I did not have any difficulties. Thanks to the joint efforts, I have WU, which I am very happy about!
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October 28, 2023
I want to express my gratitude to my instructor Alexander Tsybulsky (category B)-this is the best instructor of the school! Be sure to go to him, he explains everything, repeats important points, works on your mistakes, really teaches driving, works for your result, is always friendly, polite (I didn't get to him right away, having passed 10 circles of hell with another instructor).
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July 10
Adequate instructors, reasonable price, there is a buffer in the building where you can have breakfast, lunch, snack
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September 20, 2023
Закончил автошколу давно. Под хорошим впечатлением от работы на лекциях Семёнова. Отличный преподаватель. Но в то время мне не так подошел инструктор и идею сдачи экзамена в ГАИ отпустил.
Спустя годы мне порекомендовала подруга автоинструктора Бутрима Андрея Валерьевича. Нужно было вспомнить как водить авто. Но Андрей Валерьевич дал бОльшее, ведь благодаря ему я уверенный в себе водитель и не жалею ни капли, что пошел к нему. Не могу сказать, что мне хватило пары занятий, но проблема больше во мне, Андрей Валерьевич со своей стороны всегда делал максимум. Без каких-либо вопрос анализировал, что дается мне сложнее и прогонял по этим элементам, попутно объясняя чего мне может стоить та или иная ошибка не только на экзамене, но и в жизни. Никаких криков и истерик, никаких перегаров и прокуренного салона. Чувствуешь себя спокойно, т. к. рядом профессионал. Всем буду его рекомендовать и вам советую! Андрей Валерьевич, спасибо вам еще раз, как профи и человеку, за терпение, советы и переживания.
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November 12, 2023
I did not study here, I was retrained for category "A" at another school. But unfortunately, I didn't pass the first time and had to retake it here. And lo and behold! It turns out! The driving instructor teaches. He tells, explains and shows in practice how to drive this or that element. You won't believe it, but he runs in front of your motorcycle and shows you where your front wheel should pass. If someone thinks now, how else? So don't rush to conclusions. Maybe! He was with us on the set all the time. It doesn't seem to interfere and we don't see it, but it's worth making a mistake, right there next to "hints about your hands" and how to fix it. His name is Sergey Alexandrovich, thank you and respect to him. And another discovery, during the exam, he was next to us with a stopwatch, and checked our final time, who is not in the topic, this is very important. When passing the exam, there is such an element.
Summing up, I will say this. You can safely go to him to study for category "A", if there are doubts, come and watch from the side how the lesson is going. It will be both useful and interesting.
I wish the school more cadets, and the instructor Sergey Alexandrovich a prize. Thank you all. I've finished the exercises, I'm making room for the next cadet.
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July 24
The top instructors in the A category are Sergey and Andrey) I recommend it to everyone if you plan to receive the A category!!
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March 29
I encountered rudeness in driving with instructor Egor Protasen .
Shouting , swearing , refusal to explain the material. Lack of patience and desire to see the student as a driver .
Pay the money and get insults as a gift.
Thanks to the medical department for the prompt replacement of the instructor.
To Sergey Sergeevich, a teacher of theory and medicine, Sergey Vladimirovich, thank you very much. Everything is clear, with dedication and Love for work.
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October 1, 2023
A wonderful school. My son was trained, got a driver's license the first time. The approach in driving school is serious, excellent teachers and driving instructors. I recommend it to everyone
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December 18, 2023
I chose it based on a recommendation. I studied at the university, although there are enough questions for school. For me, the main problem was the instructor. Rudeness, familiarity, attitude, rudeness. You didn't come here to study, you were lucky to be allowed to touch wisdom. "Watch theft" is a common condition of driving schools, and this one is no exception. After all, there is an additional fee. And so, I paid for the service and chew what they give. After all, no one wants problems later on in the exam. The problem, as always, is with people, we are no exception.
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February 12
I want to express my gratitude to the driving school!In particular: N.V. Komar for interesting and understandable lectures, as well as to his driving instructor, A.L. Byalyatsky..If you want to become a real driver, definitely only here!
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April 12
The school is below average . Since it is written on the website that the car is sold for free to the traffic police , but in fact you pay another 80 rubles. The instructor is lucky , because some people just don 't have time for you . If you just teach at home and go cleanly to take tests , then it will go . Driving can and 0 go
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June 19
The teaching staff is very good. The building itself is old, but after all, the main thing in learning is not the building, but its teachers?!
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December 7, 2023
I want to express my gratitude to the theory teacher Vladimir Nikolaevich, and I want to express special gratitude to the driving instructor Roman Nikolaevich for the experience provided, the ability to explain and show, and thanks to such talent for passing the traffic police of the city the first time!!!!
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January 19
The first impression was not the best, but after listening about other driving schools, I conclude that the Moscow DOSAAF is one of the best places to study, excellent instructors in theory and practical classes at a good level.
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July 18, 2023
Брала уроки по вождению мотоцикла. Мотоциклы в хорошем состоянии, инструктора внимательные. Ты катаешься на площадке, выполняешь элементы, смотришь на инструктора и такое чувство, что он занят своими делами... А нет! Стоит тебе допустить малейшую ошибку и инструктор тут как тут))) Приходите, учитесь и получайте удовольствие от езды на двухколёсном коне!
July 27
The building is old, the overhaul has clearly bypassed (
The offices are still with grief in half, the toilets are not at all.
Sorry
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March 20
I signed up for a driving course.They were issued very quickly.I really liked the teachers!A convenient form of education.
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December 8, 2023
Many thanks to the driving school, the best driving school in Minsk, excellent teachers in theory and driving. I passed it the first time!!!
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September 12
It's been too long. The stated period of study does not coincide with the real one. Instead of 3.5 months, six months
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August 5
I retrained in C, D I highly recommend the instructor Oleg Zhupin!
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March 3, 2023
В целом как и любая гос структура жутко запутана и полна бюрократии. Проблема с парковкой и асфальтом. На территории есть пара автодромов техника как всегда на грани (хотя учитывая оборот людей и их обращение с ней чудо что она вообще жива) в целом можно провонять выхлопом и намокнуть в луже. Могут ли научить? Могут. Самая ли лучшая? Пожалуй что нет. Как всегда нагрузка решает
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September 12, 2023
Доступно обьясняют теорию, рассказывают заковыристые моменты на конкретных примерах. Неплохой автопарк, хорошие инструктора!
July 20
A wonderful school!I passed my license and found a husband :)Thanks
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October 14, 2022
1. Автошколу рекомендую только если найдете там хорошего инструктора, у меня был Забавский Сергей, вождение проходило так, то в магазин ему надо,то на заправку, вождению у его не научишься, потому что человек постоянно кричит на тебя и выражается нецензурно по отношению к тебе.
2 По теории все было хорошо, преподаватель была женщина Ирина Эдуардовна, объясняла все хорошо, рассказывала события из жизни как вести себя на дороге и тд. Ну и наверное плюс то,что платные пересдачи по теории, поэтому сам захочешь учить.
3 Подведу итоги Автошкола не плохая, просто мне попался плохой инструктор, менять не хотел,чтобы не терять время и сдать все вовремя .
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September 14, 2023
Отличная автошкола, качественные теоретические занятия и профессиональные преподаватели, рекомендую !
October 16, 2022
0XIZEF - multimotors
REFKITZI - anytime
7V6DUZ - hello
Автошкола хорошая, преподаватели по теории-отличные. Но инструктора по вождению - ужас, 90% это люди (видно, что любители "выпить" ), которые будут кричать/ругаться на вас при любой возможности за любое неправильно выполнение действие. Вождение проходит всегда в напряжённой атмосфере, где страшно дышать. Но если получили права , можете зарегистрироваться в каршерингах Минска, и по промокодам получить от 6 до 10 рублей)
0XIZEF - multimotors
REFKITZI - anytime
7V6DUZ - hello
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April 27
I asked for category A without having any experience. The instructors are highly qualified and very polite.
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September 14, 2021
Отдельное спасибо за теоретический курс Сачинской Надежде Николаевне. Вождение было крутое. Многие инструктора совмещают обычные занятия с частной практикой, что тоже очень удобно. Вкусная столовка. Совет для новоиспечённых курсантов. Готовьтесь к сдаче зачётов, а то переплатите вдвое! Приятный бонус, что помогают подать документы в ГАИ и сопровождают в течении всех экзаменов, что придаёт некой уверенности.
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July 23, 2022
Водить научили хорошо. Да, бывает такое, что преподаватель придет навеселе. Но самое главное, что знания даёт! Инструктора на автомобилях тоже помогают. Могут рявкнуть, но зато на всю жизнь запомнишь и не будешь косячить. Сам катался на Polo, машина полностью исправная была и давал угла на ней с полным комфортом. Всё это относится к ДОСААФ Московского района. Про Центральный ничего сказать не могу.
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October 23
Top driving school - taught to drive from 0 literally.
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December 7, 2023
Everything is great, but room 20 is very cold, and the teachers are cool, I recommend it
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